Preview: Newcastle Utd vs Man City – 30/10/13 (LC)

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Can things really get any worse? We’ve just lost to a side who only had one point before the match, were bottom of the table and already onto their second manager of the season. Oh that’s right, they are also our local rivals. Our club is owned by a person who doesn’t care even the smallest little bit about the club and continues to make ridiculous decisions, such as outlawing the local press, to make us the league’s laughing stock. We have a director of football who couldn’t even name our entire squad. Finally, our manager is tactically inept and doesn’t have a clue how to solve key problems that have been troubling us for the past 12 months. Our next three matches are against Manchester City, Chelsea and Tottenham. Okay, things can get a whole lot worse.

Alan Pardew has come out this week and stated that he wants to win the Capital One Cup. What a turn around! Before the Leeds tie, the club came out and said they don’t care about the cups, now our manager wants to win it! I wonder if his message would be the same had we won on Sunday. Plus it could just be an empty statement to appease the fans as it’s easy to say it before a tie we are expected to lose. It’s starting to become clear to him that his time is running out and he is willing to do anything to buy more time from the fans or the owner.

Our only hope is that Manchester City have their eyes on other prizes, which seems to be the case for their fans according to our Q&A, at least. They are falling behind the pace in the Premier League after losing to title rivals Chelsea and they still have plenty to do in the Champions League. This match may offer Pellegrini a perfect chance to rest his key players as he won’t be judged on his exploits in his competition. Even Manchester City’s reserves will probably dominate our first team though. In the last round they absolutely smashed Wigan, we will probably get the same treatment. It pains me as I write that I wouldn’t even care if that is the case.

Pardew needs a result

Pardew needs a result sooner rather than later if he is to have any chance of regaining the backing of the fans. A win would see us into the final 8 of the Capital One Cup with some of the big names already out, which would give us a great chance to follow in the footsteps of Swansea in winning the cup. Alas these dreams will probably remain exactly that. Manchester City haven’t won this competition since 1976 so that may be a motivational factor for Pellegrini and his players.

Stats
– The last time we progressed past the fourth round was during the 2006/7 against Watford when we won on penalties.
– Our last appearance in this round was the 2011/12 campaign. We lost 4-3 to Blackburn.
– We’ve never beaten Man City in the League Cup.
– The last manager (Joe Harvey) to lose back to back derby matches won a trophy.

Pardew’s Points
– ‘It wasn’t to be’ on Sunday.
– We need to bounce back quickly.
– We gave a ‘solid performance’ on Sunday and ‘should have won the game’.
– He thinks we can win our next two games. (Man City and Chelsea…)
– Man City are a ‘problem team’ for us.
– It’s an opportunity for ‘three or four near to our first team’ to make a stake for Chelsea.
– Colo and Taylor struggling for Chelsea.
– ‘Good to have Mapou back’.
– Tioté is playing his best football for 14 months. He will captain tomorrow.
– This competition is high on our agenda.
– Talks again about being the better team on Sunday. I don’t think you get points for that Alan.

It wasn't to be

Team News
Newcastle – Yanga-Mbiwa is back after his one match ban. Massadio Haïdara is also available to make his first appearance of the season. Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini and Curtis Good will all miss out on the match, so Mike Williamson will keep his place in the centre of defence. Paul Dummett is likely to miss out in favour of Yanga-Mbiwa, but could still play at left back. Papiss Cissé, Vurnon Anita and Sylvain Marveaux are all likely starters.

Man City – Vincent Kompany is unlikely to feature as he is out with an injury. Costel Pantilimon is likely to replace king of blunders Joe Hart. From the 12 cup matches he has played in, Man City have won 10 and kept 7 clean sheets. James Milner, Joleon Lescott and Stevan Jovetic are all likely to start.

Referee
Neil Swarbrick – His last match in charge of Newcastle was during the 4-0 loss at the Etihad in March. Say no more.

YCCMY’s Line-Up

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Pardew’s Line-Up
I don’t have a clue! But no doubt it will include many puzzling selections, which will lead to us losing the match.

Where to Watch/Listen
Cash turnstiles will be in operation from 6:15pm, with adult tickets costing £20 and kids getting in for £5. The cash turnstiles are located at Gallowgate East Corner – 52, 53, 54, 55 and Gallowgate West Corner – 67, 68, 69, 70.

The match is live on Sky Sports 1 from 7:30pm and radio commentary will be on BBC Newcastle (local) and Radio 5 Live (national).

Overseas coverage: (courtesy of nufc.com)
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ESPN Caribbean/Cono Sur/Play Latin America
Setanta Sports (Australia)
Sport TV2 +HD
SportDigital.tv
SuperSport 3 Africa
TV10/Viaplay (Sweden)

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Man City Fans’ Thoughts Ahead of the Match

Originally a forum post by you can call me yo, click to read/comment

I popped over to the MCFC Forum to ask the questions this time. I got a better response than I did from the Sunderland fans. The questions I asked were:

1 – How do you think you’ll line up?
2 – How much importance are you putting on the Capital One Cup?
3 – What is your view on Joe Hart? Should he be dropped after Sunday’s mistake?
4 – Do you have any talent coming through your academy? Who are the ‘ones to watch’?
5 – Who should we watch out for / who is your biggest threat?
6 – Which of our players do you consider to be our biggest threat?
7 – What is your prediction for Man City this season?
8 – How do you think Newcastle will do this season?
9 – Scoreline prediction?
10 – If your football club was a fruit, what fruit would it be?

citizen_blue

1 – How do you think you’ll line up?
I think you’ll see us revert to our usual 442 with the full backs bombing forward.
2 – How much importance are you putting on the Capital One Cup?
We’ll aim to get far in it with our squad players but not at the expense of the other competitions.
3 – What is your view on Joe Hart? Should he be dropped after Sunday’s mistake?
Joe will not be playing in the cup regardless but yes a couple of games out may do him some good.
4 – Do you have any talent coming through your academy? Who are the ‘ones to watch’?
John Guidetti has been back in training and has an outside chance of featuring. I’d also expect to see marcos Lopes feature, probably off the bench.
5 – Who should we watch out for / who is your biggest threat?
Dzeko can cause problems in the box but does very little outside of it. Navas is due a performance if he starts. Jovetic looked good last time out and will be eager to impress.
6 – Which of our players do you consider to be our biggest threat?
Ben Arfa can be dangerous on his game. Don’t if he will be playing though as I don’t know how serious you will take the game.
7 – What is your prediction for Man City this season?
Still think we will win the league and I’m gonna say quarter finals of the CL.
8 – How do you think Newcastle will do this season?
Mid table. Your too inconsistent for anything more.
9 – Scoreline prediction?
3-1 City
10 – If your football club was a fruit, what fruit would it be?
Banana’s Banana’s Banana’s!

BlueWolf

1 – How do you think you’ll line up?
A couple of lads from yesterday will make it in there. It’ll almost be a brand new XI.
2 – How much importance are you putting on the Capital One Cup?
A Cup is a Cup is a Cup. If you’re not in it to win it, why are you in it? That said, it comes dead last on the importance scale.
3 – What is your view on Joe Hart? Should he be dropped after Sunday’s mistake?
He’d have been dropped anyway – Pants always plays in domestic Cups.
4 – Do you have any talent coming through your academy? Who are the ‘ones to watch’?
He’d have been dropped anyway – Pants always plays in domestic Cups.
5 – Who should we watch out for / who is your biggest threat?
Hart
Dzeko is likely to play; he’ll have a point to prove (or 3).
6 – Which of our players do you consider to be our biggest threat?
Remy. He looks like he knows what he’s doing. Always had a soft spot for Ben Arfa though.
7 – What is your prediction for Man City this season?
Probably 2nd
8 – How do you think Newcastle will do this season?
Survive. But not by much
9 – Scoreline prediction?
1-3 to us. But could be anything if recent results are to go against.
10 – If your football club was a fruit, what fruit would it be?
A banana. Obviously.
Maybe a ‘peach’ though.

Kevez

1 – How do you think you’ll line up?
4-4-2. 3 or 4 survivors from Sundays defeat at Chelsea with a few off the bench starting with a couple of kids from the EDS team starting the match. 7 players on the bench will be a blend of first team regulars and kids.
2 – How much importance are you putting on the Capital One Cup?
I’d like to win this trophy as it is the one domestic trophy that we have not won since our re)emergence as a true force. That said it still plays 4th fiddle the the league, Champions League and FA Cup.
3 – What is your view on Joe Hart? Should he be dropped after Sunday’s mistake?
No. He shouldn’t be dropped. However he will not play a part in this match as Pantilimon is our number one keeper in domestic cup matches.
4 – Do you have any talent coming through your academy? Who are the ‘ones to watch’?
Marcos Lopes is the one who is most likely to feature in this match and the closest to featuring in the Premier League. Skillful, quick, creative and scores goals. Also look out for Pozo, he is one of the younger ones in the EDS squad and is a striker who came with a huge reputation from Real Madrid, These 2 could both have decent careers ahead of them.
5 – Who should we watch out for / who is your biggest threat?
You are likely to see a number if changes in our starting line up. I would select Edin Dzeko. He has a point to prove as he hasn’t had a lot of game time of late due the form of Aguero and Negredo our number 1 strike partnership.
6 – Which of our players do you consider to be our biggest threat?
You have three of them. Cabaye, Ben Arfa and Remy. Cabaye is great on the ball l, an excellent passer and has an eye for goal from long range. Ben Arfa is a bit of an enigma but has all of the talent in the world. Remy is a goal scorer, pure and simple.
7 – What is your prediction for Man City this season?
We’ll finish second in the league due to our inconsistencies away from home, make the quarter finals in the Champions League and win the FA Cup.
8 – How do you think Newcastle will do this season?
You’ll finish between 10th and 13th in the league. Not good enough to qualify for Europe through your league position but in no danger of relegation. You’ll be our victims in the FA Cup final.
9 – Scoreline prediction?
1-1 at full time, 2-2 after extra time, we win on penalties.
10 – If your football club was a fruit, what fruit would it be?
A pineapple. Exotic, exciting and bursting with foreign flavour

The thread on their forums can be found here.

Do you think the Manchester City fans are right to fear the out of form Ben Arfa? Have your say in the discussion thread here.

Sunderland Fans’ Thoughts Ahead of the Derby – ‘The Bad’

Originally a forum post by you can call me yo, click to read/comment

Since we didn’t have much luck asking our usual pre-match questions on Black Cat Chat, we decided to try a more popular Sunderland forum… Ready To Go. They weren’t quite as welcoming for some reason. The questions were:

1 – How do you think you’ll line up?
2 – How was Sunderland’s summer? Are you happy with the transfer deals done?
3 – Were you pleased that Di Canio was sacked? Is Gus Poyet the right man going forward?
4 – Do you have any talent coming through your academy? Who are the ‘ones to watch’?
5 – Who should we watch out for / who is your biggest threat?
6 – Which of our players do you consider to be our biggest threat?
7 – What is your prediction for Sunderland this season?
8 – How do you think Newcastle will do this season?
9 – Scoreline prediction?
10 – If your football club was a fruit, what fruit would it be?

Again, we managed to get one serious, full reply to the questions.

fyl2u

1 – How do you think you’ll line up?

Could be any number of possibilities here

2 – How was Sunderland’s summer? Are you happy with the transfer deals done?

Exciting. Passionate manager promising to kick the team up the backside, saying all the right things in the press, signed 13 players, and new Director of Football and Chief Scout had just been appointed shortly before the Summer, and Bardsley looked set not to ever play for us again. I was optimistic.

As for the transfer deals, I was excited about a few (Giaccherini, Altidore) and hopeful about the rest.

3 – Were you pleased that Di Canio was sacked? Is Gus Poyet the right man going forward?

No. I wasn’t happy he was sacked. I felt he deserved more time and was the sort of character we needed. Then again, I thought MoN, Steve Bruce and Mick McCarthy were all sacked too soon, too.

4 – Do you have any talent coming through your academy? Who are the ‘ones to watch’?

Yes. The club have been picking up various promising youngsters from far and wide. Too many to name them all, but a few, Connor Wickham, Ji Dong-Won and Mavrias, have all made appearances in competitive first team matches and could have bright futures ahead of them if they keep their heads down and work hard. New boy David Moberg Karlson played in pre-season and looked lively too. Duncan Watmore is supposedly one to watch too, though I’ve not seen him play, personally. Then there’s Ba and currently-out-on-loan N’Diaye (played a bit for us last year) who are both expected to be pushing for a first team spot in the near future.

5 – Who should we watch out for / who is your biggest threat?

On their day, it could be anyone. On an off-day, none of them.

6 – Which of our players do you consider to be our biggest threat?

No idea, I couldn’t name any of your current players. [Editor note: Yeah, right.]

7 – What is your prediction for Sunderland this season?

Many of the new players were from foreign teams so I expected a settling in period before they started to click. As such, I’m not overly surprised that the season has started the way it has, but I’m confident that the new additions will click before it’s too late, and we’ll end up safe this season, with a good platform of current talent and upcoming youths to set us in good stead for the future.

8 – How do you think Newcastle will do this season?

Probably midtable – easily safe but missing out on Europe. Most likely above SAFC this year by 4 or 5 places, but watch out for us next year as I think we’ll be more likely to give you a run for your money.

9 – Scoreline prediction?

It depends. If SAFC play well defensively, we might just scrape a 1-0 win in a dull and scrappy game. If we collapse like we did at Swansea, it could be a whitewash of epic proportions. I’m not overly confident in our chances in this game, but you know, you live in hope.

10 – If your football club was a fruit, what fruit would it be?

I’d like to say “a Cabernet Sauvignon grape that isn’t quite ripe yet, but will eventually turn into something that is at least palatable”.

More truthful is probably “banana, mashed up and mixed with assorted nuts”.

Apart from that one decent response, most of the nearly 200 replies weren’t exactly the descriptive answers we might have liked. I’ll just post a collection of unattributed highlights below.

“F*ck off “

“Gan fist yer Da. Cheers “

“Go stick your ugly Geordie head up your stinking Geordie arse “

“Fuck off you horrible horse punching sister shagging XXXL replica top wearing kernt “

“If anyone falls for this they should be shot with balls of their own sh*t FFS “

“1 – F*CK OFF
2 – F*CK OFF
3 – F*CK OFF
4 – F*CK OFF
5 – F*CK OFF
6 – F*CK OFF
7 – F*CK OFF
8 – F*CK OFF
9 – F*CK OFF
10 – F*CK OFF “

“Gan play on the A19 ya f*cking cretin “

“F*CK OFF “

“can number 10 be a fruit you can suck? ive got a couple of plums here!!”

“Lick me balls “

“F*CK OFF “

“Ah the OP is called Short………..
He’s short in every department. “

“Please go and f*ck off. “

“Your mother was wrong for not swallowing instead. “

“May your crops wither and your soil remain infertile “

“Short and sweet, your going to get walloped. “

“Go and f*ck yourself “

“5. Nufc arrogance and delusional ideas above station.
We know we are not playing Brazil but by the sounds of things you lot think we are. “

“F*Ck OfF”

“You’re a Mackem you sad Thunderc*nt “

“I hope he goes from one room to another room but, upon entering the second room, forgets why he was going there in the first place and thus has to return to the first room empty handed. “

“F*ck off! “

“Yeah, kill yourself. “

“This is a local board for local people, there’s nothing for you here!

Oh aye and fuck off.”

“Op has had an absolute mare one of the most pathetic and embarrasing mags I’ve ever seen on here. I hope this kids parents don’t see this they will be mightly disappointed in him. Absolutely tragic

Oh and,

3-0, even vaughany scored,
3-0, even vaughany scored…. ”

“Surprised you took your cock out your dads mouth long enough to write such sh*t.”

“Exactly. There’s no fucking way that’s real. “

“He does not know who his dad is. “

“F*CK OFF “

“Sh*t, it’s another infiltration of the SMB by Toenails & the rest of Toontastic “

“Could it be you’re just a pretend mag prick? “

“Do you use a wheelchair and got burnt on the arm in April?
If so what colour is your hair at the moment?
Do you always wear the same shirt? “

“1 – How do you think you’ll line up? W*NKER
2 – How was Sunderland’s summer? Are you happy with the transfer deals done? BELL END
3 – Were you pleased that Di Canio was sacked? Is Gus Poyet the right man going forward? UNCLE F*CKER
4 – Do you have any talent coming through your academy? Who are the ‘ones to watch’? GOAT MUNCHER
5 – Who should we watch out for / who is your biggest threat? YOU SUCK OFF ALAN ROBSON
6 – Which of our players do you consider to be our biggest threat? PUBE
7 – What is your prediction for Sunderland this season? F*CKNUT
8 – How do you think Newcastle will do this season? BITE ME
9 – Scoreline prediction? SUCK OFF THE HOMELESS
10 – If your football club was a fruit, what fruit would it be? JIZZ MONKEY

NOW F*CK OFF”

“There are the same 2 answers to every question:

0-3 (sadly, also for Q9) and f*ck off. ”

“Am I too late to tell him to F*CK OFF? “

“popular NUFC fan site?? Bollix – just a mag wum. F*ck off you black and white bastard. “

The thread on their forums can be found here. They’re very welcoming and great hosts.

If you want to read more about this, check out the discussion thread it spawned from here.

Sunderland Fans’ Thoughts Ahead of the Derby – ‘The Good’

Originally a forum post by you can call me yo, click to read/comment

Well this was a disappointing week for responses. I went to the Black Cat Chat forum as they came over here to ask us a few questions a while back, but they only offered one full response. It is quite interesting though. The questions are:

1 – How do you think you’ll line up?
2 – How was Sunderland’s summer? Are you happy with the transfer deals done?
3 – Were you pleased that Di Canio was sacked? Is Gus Poyet the right man going forward?
4 – Do you have any talent coming through your academy? Who are the ‘ones to watch’?
5 – Who should we watch out for / who is your biggest threat?
6 – Which of our players do you consider to be our biggest threat?
7 – What is your prediction for Sunderland this season?
8 – How do you think Newcastle will do this season?
9 – Scoreline prediction?
10 – If your football club was a fruit, what fruit would it be?

Conaboy

1 – Westwood, Celustka, O’Shea, Roberge, Colback, Johnson, Larsson, Cattermole, Gardner, Giacherrini, Fletcher
2 – All seemed good at the time, and although I did start to get slightly concerned towards the end at the number of players coming in, I was optimistic.
– Of the ones seen, I have seen no one where I have thought “Oh my god he’s awful”. On the other hand there are still 8 of the 14 that I still haven’t seen enough of to make a judgement
3 – Pleased is probably the wrong word, but I thought at the time it was an accident waiting to happen so it didn’t surprise me
– None of the candidates particularly stood out but I will support him going forward
4. – Of the Under 18’s I am not particularly well versed although the only one player I have heard anything of is Jasseem Sukar, a young centre half.
– I know the Under 21’s a bit better and we have a few who have shown potential. Jordan Pickford is a good young keeper who is a regular for the England U19’s, Liam Marrs is a decent looking right back who was in a couple of first team squads at the end of last season, Louis Laing made good progress a couple of seasons ago before it stalled last season because of injuries, John Egan is similar to Lang, he was doing well but then suffered a serious leg break last season, Billy Knott has been on loan with some good lower league sides and I was hoping he would be breaking into the team this season, Duncan Watmore is a bright prospect, scored a few from the right wing at 17 for Altringham last season and has been scoring regularly for the reserves this season. Hoping to see him break through as well.
5 – Fletcher if he is fit enough.
6 – Ben Arfa. If he could put together a slightly better run of form he could be pushing for a transfer into the CL.
7 – We will definitely not finish bottom.
8 – 11th-14th
9 – Score Draw. Sunderland to take the lead and be ahead at half time before Newcastle equalise in second half followed by a boring last 20 minutes.
10 – Errrrr……

Hakuna Matata

Hi.

I really like Conaboys answer, so I won’t add much except an answer to no. 10

A banana – Why, because we are a bit bent out of shape and yellow most of the way through.

Davey B

Same for me except for the result. As loathe as i am to say it, i feel we’ll get a pummeling on Sunday.

The thread on their forums can be found here. This was the entirety of their response, so in search of more answers we posted on a slightly more popular Sunderland forum. The reaction was a tad more hostile, and we’ve covered that in another post.

Do you think the Sunderland fans are right to expect to not finish bottom and maybe snatch a draw in this game? Have your say in the discussion thread here.

Preview: Sunderland vs Newcastle Utd – 27/10/13

Match preview by TJR, click here to go the our match discussion thread

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Team News
Newcastle’s Yanga-Mbiwa serves his one match suspension after being sent off in the 2-2 draw against Liverpool. Fellow centre-back Fabricio Coloccini misses out through injury once again and expected to be out until Christmas. Alan Pardew has confirmed that Cheick Tioté will captain the side again, after impressing in the role last time out.

Sunderland’s favourite man Steven Taylor is available after recovering from injury and is expected to line up at the heart of defence alongside the inspirational Iron Mike Williamson. Taylor once famously stated that he would rather collect stamps than play for Sunderland, which of course wound the mackems up and as a result we’ll no doubt hear the vile ‘Steven Taylor we wish you were dead’ chant from the home contingent once again.

Taylors combine

Derby hero Ryan Taylor is on the long term injury list, as he has been for the past year, so he won’t feature. Geordie lad Paul Dummett impressed when he came on last week against Liverpool and grabbed a goal, he is unlikely to start this week though due to the recovery of Steven Taylor. Haïdara has fully recovered from injury, although it is unlikely that he will even make the bench. Uncertainty surrounds the involvement of Jonás who was missing from the 2-2 draw against Liverpool after he was allowed to return to Argentina for personal reasons.

As for Sunderland, Wes Brown is a doubt, but otherwise they have a fully fit squad to choose from. Gus Poyet is expected to make several changes to the side that rolled over for Swansea, after which one national newspaper described every player but Cattermole and Westwood as gutless in that game. Cattermole however was accurately described as talentless. There is always the possibility Poyet could surprise Newcastle. I’m not talking about him defecating on our changing room floor, I mean in terms of team selection.

Manager Quotes
Alan Pardew:

We’ve worked with the players that have come in. And we look like we’ve got a lot of good options. I was going to start with Dummett for Liverpool because Willo was struggling before the game. It was ironic that he came on. He’d had preparation, but I didn’t expect him to do his little hop, skip and jump after he scored. His family will be proud of him. We’ve had him since he was nine so it is great to get one through.

I don’t expect to see him scoring goals – stopping goals is what he will be paid for. I thought he did that really well. He made some important interceptions and headers. You actually didn’t see the join in the back four when Yanga-Mbiwa went off. We conceded a lot of possession because we only had 10 but we did really, really well. Cheick has replaced Colo. That is what we have needed. He’s playing by example rather than saying too much. Cheick is playing by example and putting in a real shift. We need more of it.

Gus Poyet:

Sometimes, people say in football that you need to pick your 11 best individuals. No – you need to pick your best team. And sometimes that means you need to leave out one of your best individuals. Now we need our best team. We need characters, rather than individuals. We need players who react the right way and who are mentally strong. That is more important than playing your ‘best’ player, or the player that everybody likes.

In my opinion, if you are to do well then you need everybody to have a clear idea of how you want to play and to understand the system. If two or three don’t do that, it is difficult. And if those two or three are in key positions, then you have a big problem. It is clear that, over the eight games so far this season, the 11 players on the pitch week in, week out, haven’t clicked yet, for whatever reason. The day I can tell you my team from one to 11 without any doubts, we will be in a good situation. Now, I have an idea of seven or eight, but there are still some places open. I’m looking forward to it.

It is going to be a very special game, if you ask me ‘would I prefer to go into this game in a better situation and with a few more points’, of course, yes. But this is the situation we are in, and I am going to do everything I can to help us improve it. And, as far as the players are concerned, if any of them need lifting when we play Newcastle at home, they don’t deserve to be Sunderland players.

‘Expert’ Opinion
Mark Lawrenson:

This is the first home game for Sunderland manager Gus Poyet, after his side had a shocker in the second half of their 4-0 defeat by Swansea last weekend. In many ways, though, that was not the worst thing that could have happened. The Black Cats got away with it in the first half at the Liberty Stadium but, after the interval, we saw how low they are and how low they are going. If they had been battered and somehow sneaked a draw in that game then it would have been something of a false dawn. Instead, Poyet now knows first hand what he is up against.

He will have looked at his players before, during and after the Swansea game and you always see more of what your players are made of when your team is struggling. Poyet will have had his say to the players already and he probably won’t have to add anything before this game. Even the ones who arrived in the summer will know they have to beat Newcastle, so I would expect an improved performance from them.

Newcastle’s performance with 10 men in their draw with Liverpool will have pleased Alan Pardew. They are safely in mid-table and I would expect them to stay there. The interesting thing for me is what the Magpies do when the transfer window opens in January because, by then, they will not have bought a player for 12 months. This is a game that is always almost impossible to predict, but this time I can see it ending up in a draw. The only thing I know for sure is that it will be fiery. 1-1.

Match Preview
Newcastle United have had an inconsistent start to the 2013/2014 Barclay’s Premier League season; at times we have been very good and others very poor. However we have produced two good performances on the trot now, so hopefully we are starting to find some sort of consistency. Sunderland, on the other hand, have had an atrocious start to the season. The table below compares the starts that the two North East clubs have made.

  Wins Draws Defeats Goals F Goals A Points G.D.
Newcastle 3 2 3 11 14 11 -3
mackems 0 1 7 5 20 1 -15

Both teams have unfavourable goal differences, with Newcastle on -3 and Sunderland on -15. The Man City away game has made a key impact to our goal difference rather than a lack of goals, excluding that game we’ve scored one more than we have conceded. Alan Pardew will see the derby as an opportunity to correct our goal difference.

Points wise Newcastle have 11 whereas Sunderland have only the 1. This has left Sunderland cast adrift at the bottom of the table, while Newcastle are sitting comfortably in mid table. The graph below shows the points accumulation to date of Newcastle and Sunderland over the course of the season.

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Sunderland got their only point of the season away to Southampton back when Di Canio was still manager, so obviously this graph doesn’t make very good reading for them. It’s hard to show much progress when you only have a single instance of earning points over 8 games. As for Newcastle, this reads a lot better. It shows steady progress throughout the season although periods of no gain are evident at times.

The derby will be Poyet’s second game in charge of Sunderland, with Ball having managed the previous two games in an interim role following Di Canio’s sacking after just five games in charge of Sunderland this season.

Alan Pardew has been ever-present in the Newcastle dugout this season, which He off out of favour amongst large sections of fans, although he appears to be winning around many of them again following a promising start to the season and a noticeable change in style to a more attacking brand of football as we’ve returned to the 4-3-3 and are having great success with Rémy on the left. Poyet meanwhile has a lot to prove to the Sunderland fans to show that he is going to be an improvement over his predecessors.
Newcastle have scored 11 goals this season, with Sunderland scoring just 5. The chart below shows each team’s top scorers.

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Rémy leads the way with 5 goals this season and is the only player from either side who you could describe as having been anywhere near prolific. Sunderland themselves only have 5 goals this season, and this lack of goal-scoring is half of the reason why Sunderland are bottom of the league. The other half being that they are yet to keep a clean sheet this season, shipping in 20 goals over just 8 games. This gives them an average of 0.625 goals for and 2.5 against per game. When you aren’t scoring regularly and have an inability to stop the opposition scoring, you find that you will struggle to pick points up.

This will be the 149th match between these rivals. The table below shows the record of the previous 148.

Team Wins Draws Defeats Goals F Goals A Points G.D.
Newcastle 53 49 46 221 217 208 4
mackems 46 49 53 217 221 187 -4

It should be noted that this record applies to Tyne-Wear/Wear-Tyne derbies in all competitions, not just the league. However I have added in what would be a points tally if they were all league games in the modern era. I have done this is to allow for easier reading as you can clearly compare the results from the two sides.

Historically Newcastle have had the better of Sunderland over the years, winning 53 of the 148 encounters, while Sunderland have won 46 and there has been 49 draws. Although Newcastle edge it in terms of games won, it is still very close and the number of draws highlights over the years this has been a close rivalry despite the periods of dominance each side may have had other the other.

The last 6 games between the two teams have finished as follows:

NUFC 5 – 1 SAFC
SAFC 1 – 1 NUFC
SAFC 0 – 1 NUFC
NUFC 1 – 1 SAFC
SAFC 1 – 1 NUFC
NUFC 0 – 3 SAFC

Over the last 6 games it has been very tight between the teams, with half of them ending as draws. Of the rest, Newcastle have won 2 to Sunderland’s 1. That single win, however, was the most recent encounter between the two sides, as Di Canio’s men ran out 3-0 winners during a dismal Newcastle performance at St James’ last April. With that in mind Newcastle have a score to settle and the players will be all out for revenge in this game. Hopefully we will set the record straight.

Newcastle performed very well in their last game, and Alan Pardew normally leaves his sides unchanged after impressive displays, although the suspended Yanga-Mbiwa obviously will have to be replaced. However, given the nature of this derby match, there may be some more changes. Perhaps the mackem slayer will make a glorious return to the starting eleven, although it is more likely that Shola will feature from the bench. From Pardew’s comments in the media this week though, I do get the impression that Saylor for Yanga-Mbiwa will be the only change. My predicted Newcastle United line-up is:

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<debuchy> <willo> <saylor> <santon>
<cabaye> <tiote>
<gouff> <sissoko> <remy>
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Popular statistics and infographics website WhoScored have predicted the line-ups of both teams. They also seem to be under the impression that Saylor for Mapou will be the only Newcastle change. They have compiled a statistical comparison based on there predicted line ups.

SAFC v NUFC Comparison

Unsurprisingly, the predicted Newcastle line-up has had a higher average rating than the Sunderland one this season. Newcastle’s key players according to the WhoScored ratings are Remy, Debuchey and Iron Mike, with those 3 having the highest average rating of the Newcastle players likely to start. For Sunderland Cuellar, Giaccherini and Cattermole are the key players.

WhoScored have monitored the strengths and weaknesses of the two teams over the course of the season and used them to predict likely outcomes.

SAFC v NUFC Strengths

Sunderland’s weakest points are defending counter attacks and defending long shots, which lines up perfectly with Newcastle’s strengths scoring from counter attacks and long shots. So that is a good sign for Newcastle. With Cabaye in the Newcastle side, Sunderland are in constant danger of conceding a long shot whenever Cabaye picks up possession in the final third. Other calculated likely outcomes by WhoScored are that Newcastle will score from a counter attack, Newcastle will dominate in the air and that Newcastle will score from a wing play situation.

The referee for the game is Lee Probert. This will be his first Newcastle United game of the season, with his last Newcastle game being our visit to Loftus Road at the back end of last season, which we won 2-1 as Probert gave a penalty kick to each side and sent Rob Elliot off late on. That was Probert’s 8th Newcastle game and the only game he’s officiated that we have won.

Probert sends O'Shea off

He has refereed Sunderland on one occasion this season, the 3-1 defeat to Crystal Palace. Probert was left with no choice but to show a red card to O’Shea after his calamitous attempt at a tackle, resulting in a penalty kick which Palace converted.

The Newcastle end is sold out and has been for some time, however there are tickets still available for home fans, although you have to have previous purchase history to get one. It’s not advised to sit in the home end as stewards and police are incredibly strict these days and you’ll get kicked out while celebrating a Newcastle goal. And you’d be surrounded by empty seats and mackems.

Hopefully both sets of fans are better behaved than they have been in recent years. Sunderland fans are expected to sing about wishing Steven Taylor is dead and a version of the Blaydon Races with lyrics replaced to mock a disabled Newcastle fan who was a victim of a missile attack from Sunderland supporters. Newcastle fans are likely to once again sing about Jimmy Saville and Maggie Thatcher being Cattermole’s parents. All will be good though if these chants are the only vile twist on the day. After horsegate, which recently resulted in a 12 month spell in prison for the offender, and Newcastle fans causing trouble last year as well as Sunderland throwing missiles from level 7, tougher policing is expected and hopefully the day will pass safely without anyone being attacked.

Northumbria Police are reminding fans to plan their travel arrangements ahead of the Wear-Tyne derby game on Sunday. They are asking people to use official club coaches or public transport. The official coach will cost £4 but everything raised will go to charity.

Special Metro services will run on the match day this weekend. These will only stop at Central Station and St Peter’s and are for Newcastle supporters only. They leave at 12:16 and 12:24. Northern Rail are also providing a service for supporters direct from Newcastle Central Station to St Peter’s, leaving at 11:52 and arriving at 12:17. Those travelling by Metro or train must enter Central Station by the entrance near the long stay car park and Centurion bar. Normal Metro service is running along with the additional ones, however fans are asked to avoid these trains and travel on the specially arranged services. For the second year running we are housed in the North Stand which is the one furthest away from St Peter’s Metro station.

Newcastle fans will have access to the bars on level 1 and level 3. Before the game and at half time the bar at level 1 will serve alcohol to Newcastle fans but the one at level 3 won’t. After the match, Newcastle fans will be locked inside the stadium while the police clear the area of home fans. At this point Newcastle fans will be given access to the bars on level 1 and level 3 and alcohol will be served in both. After the game additional Metros will be put on to take the Newcastle fans back to Central Station.

The most important bit of pre-match information however is to remember that the clocks go back one hour at 2am on Sunday morning as BST gives way to GMT. Make sure you don’t miss kick off!

Origins of the Rivalry

The rivalry between Newcastle and Sunderland has been around long before football. Below is a snippet from an article on the history of the rivalry by Richard Stonehouse.

In the epoch before the 1600s, King Charles I had consistently awarded the East of England Coal Trade Rights (try to contain your excitement) to Newcastle’s traders, which rendered the Wearside coal merchants redundant. People died because of it. Coal and ships were Sunderland’s raison d’etre.

But when, in 1642, the English Civil War started, and Newcastle, with good reason, supported the Crown, Sunderland, because of the trading inequalities, sided with Cromwell’s Parliamentarians, and the division began.

It became a conflict between Sunderland’s socialist republicanism, against Newcastle’s loyalist self-interest. A purposeful enmity if ever there was one. Unlike rivalries between other clubs, the differences between Newcastle and Sunderland date back to fighting based on the necessity to live and feed one’s children, and benefit one’s city.

The political differences between the two culminated with the battle of Boldon Hill. A loyalist army from Newcastle and County Durham gathered to fight an anti-monarchist Sunderland and Scottish army at a field equidistant between the two towns.

The joint Scottish and Sunderland army won – and Newcastle was colonised by the Scottish. It was subsequently used as a Republican military base for the rest of war.

And while this is a lucid basis for two cities hating each other, it has, like every other modern-day derby, developed profoundly irrational manifestations.

It’s a really interesting article and here is the link for those who are interested in the history.

Derby days to remember
Back to the football rivalry now. Here is a collection of some of the best derby memories,from a Newcastle perspective of course, in recent history. Liam O’Brien’s free kick, Ryan Taylor’s free kick, Scott Sellars’ free kick, Beardsley’s hat-trick, the 5-1, Cabaye’s goal and of course Big Al’s 206th and final Newcastle United goal. Enjoy.

TV & Radio Coverage (via nufc.com)
UK TV:
Sky Sports 1

Overseas TV:
Al Jazeera Sport +10/HD6
Al Jazeera Sport +9/HD1
beIN Sport 3 Premier
C+ Family (Poland) +HD
C+ Sport (France) +HD
Canal+ Deportes 2 HD
Diema
Digi Sport 1 (Hungary) +HD
ESPN Brazil
Fox Sports (Italy) +HD
Fox Sports 1 (Australia)
Fox Sports 2 HD (Ned)
Guangdong Sports (China)
LTV Sports 2 (Cyprus)
MTV 3 Max Sport 1
NBC Sports Live / Network (USA)
Nova Sport (Bulgaria) +HD
NTV plus Futbol +HD
OTE Sport 1 +HD (Greece)
Sky Sport 1 (Austria/Germany)
Slovak Sport TV2
Sport Klub 1 (Cro/Serb/Slov)
TSN2 (Canada)
TV2 Sport Premium HD
TV3+ Denmark
ViaPlay +HD (Den/Swe)
Viasat Football (Sweden) +HD

Radio:
BBC Radio Newcastle
TalkSport

Other coverage:
Just about every pub in and around Tyne & Wear will be showing the game. Also plenty of streams will appear on the day.

In Shola we trust! Here’s to 3 points.

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