Hull City Fans’ Thoughts on the Match

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I went over to the Not 606 Hull board to ask the questions. I accidentally asked one question twice and I’m making this thread on a tablet so it won’t be great. The questions this week were:

1 – Where do you think you’ll finish this season? What about Newcastle?
2 – What are your thoughts on Ben Arfa and his time at Hull?
3 – Where do Hull need to strengthen before the deadline?
4 – Are you worried about relegation? What has gone wrong?
5 – If you could have one football player, past or present, live in your spare room who would it be and why?
6 – Do you need to do any business in January? If so, who would you like to sign?
7 – If your club was a biscuit, what biscuit would it be? And why would it be that biscuit?
8 – Is Steve Bruce still the correct man for the job?
9 – Have Newcastle made a mistake by waiting until the summer to appoint a permanent manager?
10 – Scoreline prediction?

Happy Tiger

1 – Where do you think you’ll finish this season? What about Newcastle?
Us 11th, you hard to say tbh at the mo, 15 to 9

2 – What are your thoughts on Ben Arfa and his time at Hull?
Pardew was right. 100%. Gifted player, but not as good as he thinks he is, also ****ing lazy. Too much of a passenger in any team.

3 – Where do Hull need to strengthen before the deadline?
Striker or attacking midfielder wouldn’t hurt but our squad is good enough for us, it just needs to be fitter and less injured

4 – Are you worried about relegation? What has gone wrong?
Not worried in the slightest. Injuries have devastated us.

5 – If you could have one football player, past or present, live in your spare room who would it be and why?
Deano. Be a laugh.

6 – Do you need to do any business in January? If so, who would you like to sign?
Lennon would be nice, but, I’m quite relaxed about this window.

7 – If your club was a biscuit, what biscuit would it be? And why would it be that biscuit?
Jaffa Cake. Amber centre, causes arguments over whether its a biscuit or a cake, but the bottom line is, who cares, still tastes fab and gives me pleasure.

8 – Is Steve Bruce still the correct man for the job?
Yes. He’s a great manager, lovely fella and I like him

9 – Have Newcastle made a mistake by waiting until the summer to appoint a permanent manager?
Possibly yes. Hard to understand your owners thinking some times. Certainly gives the impression of being more interested in Rangers than you.

10 – Scoreline prediction?
2-1

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Preview: Hull City vs Newcastle Utd – 31/01/15

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Having had it confirmed by the club this week that he will be the Newcastle United head coach for the remaining 16 games of this season, John Carver will be looking to hit the ground running and secure a much needed win against Hull City. There has been a lot of talk on Tyneside of the season drifting away for the Magpies, with many suggesting it is already over; I’d argue that it is far from over and our next couple of games are must win fixtures or we could see ourselves being sucked into a relegation battle.

Carver will be well aware of the importance of a win, although his focus seems to be looking forward rather than worrying about being dragged down. He claims to still believe the club can finish in the top 10 and will be looking to put the mind of doubters at rest as early as possible into his campaign.

He has been quick to point out his time serving under Newcastle legends Sir Bobby Robson and Gary Speed, stating that he has learned a lot from working with them. He’s already made changes from the Newcastle United of Alan Pardew, and this week he’s been looking to implement even more. He’s given all the players a clean slate and sees big money signing Remy Cabella as a key player. Alan Pardew had already written off the trickster without giving him much of a chance. Continue reading

TFI – Player Ratings vs Stoke City – 29 Sep 14

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A routine victory for Stoke against a listless Newcastle. A simple goal put Stoke ahead early and they coasted from that point onwards. Janmaat did not put enough pressure on Moses who cut inside and played a dinked cross. Our captain was out of place and was out jumped by Crouch. The type of goal one would train (presumably) to prevent Stoke scoring. Newcastle simply did not test the Stoke goal enough after that, indeed Stoke came closest hitting the bar after halftime.

We ask our forum members to rate each player’s performance in the concerned game out of 10, which we then average out to get a rating representative of the fans’ views, we also collect a few user comments to summarise how the player did and show a few different viewpoints from the board. The top scoring player is man of the match; the lowest is mug of the match. Ratings are from this thread.

Highlights, if you can call them that, at time of writing can be found here.

Man of the match award goes to Tioté, fighting hard against the physical presence of Stoke clearly suits him. The only other outfield player to achieve more than 5.00 came in the surprising form of Obertan. His pace, power and running made the side more dynamic.

Mug of the match narrowly goes to Gouffran over Cabella. In addition to the standard lack of redeeming play, Gouffran almost gave a cheap penalty away. I’m running out of new ways to regurgitate the index’s low rating of his play and this is only September. Cabella also drew ire, trying to overplay was a common complaint, he created very little. Colback’s passing was very off, drawing low scores from his usual champions. The defence was uniformly poor, struggling in the air.

Overall, a poor 4.44 for a poor performance. For letting Stoke win at a canter, Pardew’s score was again very low 1.82. Tactics that had not succeeded in the season so far again came up short. To quote forum member Speedo:

“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

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TFI – Player Ratings vs Crystal Palace (LC) – 24 Sep 14

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This is the TFI for our 3rd round Milk Littlewoods Coca Cola Carling Capital One Cup victory at Selhurst Park. An eventful game with two penalties, five goals, a sending off and starts for youngsters and perennial outsiders.

We ask our forum members to rate each player’s performance in the concerned game out of 10, which we then average out to get a rating representative of the fans’ views, we also collect a few user comments to summarise how the player did and show a few different viewpoints from the board. The top scoring player is man of the match; the lowest is mug of the match. The ratings thread is here.

Highlights can, at time of writing, be found here.

Despite his sending off Abeid was not mug of the match, with a 5.95. Some felt the two yellows were harsh. Mug went to right back Janmaat. He conceded a poor penalty for with badly timed, needless tackle. Still a 4.20 is a high score for mug of the match, rating as poor rather than terrible. Goalkeeper Elliot’s chance to prove himself won few users over, with many concerned with his apparent slowness.

On the back of his mug of the match against Hull, Rivière turned in his best performance for us so far to be named man of the match. A good turn with his back to goal outside the box was followed by a lucky bounce and a tidy finish gave the Frenchman his first competitive goal in English football. The impressive Ameobi’s powerful and unpredictable run resulted in a penalty at the same spot as Palace’s. Rivière dispatched with confidence lacking from many of his other performances. Also to be noted was Dummett’s unusual high rating, despite some reservations about defending persisting. A ‘brave’ header for the winning goal capped off a good attacking performance. Young Adam Armstrong made an impression playing as a number 10 with two assists, after a subdued first 60 minutes.

Overall, despite conceding two goals, this was an above average 6 for the team. Players getting their rare chances came in and impressed. Pardew’s rating was a 4.55, an improvement on his recent record. Unlike many Newcastle cup teamsheets, indexers were on the whole happy with the team selection. Continue reading

TFI – Player Ratings vs Hull City – 20 Sep 14

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This was a game staged amongst large scale ‘Sack Pardew’ protests. Despite the clubs assurances otherwise, many of the flyers and banners made by the group were confiscated at turnstiles, muting the efficacy of the protest. On the pitch, the home side couldn’t make first half dominance last. Hull however were clinical with the few chances they created. Changes in Newcastle’s game came only upon going two goals down, resulting in a more dangerous looking side. Many supporters were left wondering why this couldn’t have happened from the start.

We ask our forum members to rate each player’s performance in the concerned game out of 10, which we then average out to get a rating representative of the fans’ views, we also collect a few user comments to summarise how the player did and show a few different viewpoints from the board. The top scoring player is man of the match; the lowest is mug of the match. The ratings thread is here.

Highlights can, at time of writing, be found here.

Despite the protests Newcastle began the first half bright with some decent possession in the final third. However, this only led to half chances. At the beginning of the second half, Hull struck with their first meaningful attack. A counter-attack was slowed by the arrival of more defensive bodies but these numbers did not defend well. Colback in particular dithered instead of clearing, and Williamson did not attempt to get close to the central Jelavic until too late. Credit to Jelavic for a cracking volley with the ball played behind him. Another great finish followed for Hull’s second, a pile-driver reminiscent of Jonas’ strike at the same end against Wolves. However the was little pressure on the Hull ball carriers through the whole move, notably allowing Diame five considered, leisurely touches before wrong-footing Janmaat and unleashing his hot.

The comeback started with a Tioté interception in midfield. His ball to Papiss Cissé was slightly overhit, forcing the Senegalese substitute wide, but a hard low shot surprised McGregor at the near post. Finally a deep Sissoko cross was headed back across goal by Gouffran to Cissé for his second.

Man of the Match went to two goal hero Cissé. Coming off the bench to score two resulted in ratings of 8 or 9. Tioté also performed well, one of his best showings of the season as he broke up play and spread the ball well, summed up in his contribution for the first. With an assist and some powerful running, Sissoko was much improved from his previous couple of games. The man replaced by the day’s hero, Rivière earned mug of the match for a profligate and wasteful display as all five of his shots failed to hit the target. The defence recovered from the Southampton horror show to an average showing, with Colocinni up to a dizzying rating of 6.

Overall a rating of 5.55 marks the team as average, although closer inspection shows a few standout players dragging the rest up. The match itself swung widely with a decent start and brilliant end either side of long periods with little quality. Pardew himself rated at 3.30. His selection of Williamson after Southampton was questioned, as was Gouffran. Credit was given by some for the Cissé substitution, replacing our worst performing player with the best, but not enough to gloss over only just rescuing a point at home to an unambitious Hull.

Notably Hatem Ben Arfa was in the stands, watching his new teammates and posing for photos with fans. Due to PL rules he had to watch from the sidelines, however looking back this was not much different than the rest of his loan spell at Hull. Continue reading